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  <title>RE: Airasia (X?) announces KL-London plans</title>
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  <description>Still a while to go then, which is a pity now that Oasis is no longer around. I may try them next year, maybe fly to Europe on AirAsiaX, and fly back shorthaul through Turkey, Middle East, India. That would also have the added benefit of avoiding the UK's longhaul taxes.
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;“It will be configured to house 50 flatbeds (sleeper seats) and the rest would be economy seats but will be bigger and more comfortable than even that of a full service carrier,” Fernandes said in an interview from London.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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I'm not really sure whay he means by &amp;quot; the rest would be economy seats but will be bigger&amp;quot;. Bigger in which way? Surely they're going to cram as many seats into economy as possible to get fares as low as $370 return, even if that does exclude tax.</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:20:42 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>Airasia (X?) announces KL-London plans</title>
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  <description>Should be running &amp;quot;from March&amp;quot;. with fares from RM1,200 return (US$370 - must be ex taxes and surcharges?), probably to Stansted, initally 5x/week (building up to twice daily) with an A340.
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Full story from &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/5/11/nation/21213476&amp;amp;sec=nation&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;the Malaysia Star&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:05:18 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>RE: &amp;quot;PAL Express&amp;quot;, New domestic LCC from Philippine Ai</title>
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  <description>Interestingly consistent. I think I'd choose to pay slightly more to fly Cebu Pacific.</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>RE: more air oasis trouble</title>
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  <description>Sorry if this is a little late, I haven't been able to log in recently.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aircanada.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Air Canada&lt;/a&gt; have very cheap flights, probably to help passengers stuck by Oasis's collapse. For example, one way from Hong Kong - Vancouver August 13 is HK$3478 (CAD$449) after tax etc. I strongly suggest booking ASAP whilst these fares are still available as it's likely that they are only temporary. The next cheapest fares on other airlines are more than twice as much.</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:20:20 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>RE: &amp;quot;PAL Express&amp;quot;, New domestic LCC from Philippine Ai</title>
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  <description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;PAL Express launches...!&lt;/span&gt;
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Let's see how its lowest fares measure up against those of &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/philippines/lowcostairlines/#cebupacific&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Cebu Pacific&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/philippines/lowcostairlines/#airphils&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Air Philippines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;...
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Manila Ninoy Aquino&lt;/span&gt; - &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Bacolod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Air Philippines&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 1869 one-way, including taxes (USD 45)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;PAL Express&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 1925 one-way, including taxes (USD 46)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Cebu Pacific&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2025 one-way, including taxes (USD 4&lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Manila Ninoy Aquino&lt;/span&gt; - &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Cagayan de Oro&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Air Philippines&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2597 one-way, including taxes (USD 62)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;PAL Express&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2653 one-way, including taxes (USD 63)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Cebu Pacific&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2731 one-way, including taxes (USD 65)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Manila Ninoy Aquino&lt;/span&gt; - &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Davao&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Air Philippines&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2597 one-way, including taxes (USD 62)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;PAL Express&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2653 one-way, including taxes (USD 63)
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Cebu Pacific&lt;/span&gt; : PHP 2843 one-way, including taxes (USD 6&lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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Well, that's pretty consistent.</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:01:03 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>RE: more air oasis trouble</title>
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  <description>Quite tough this one. 
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/hongkong/lowcostairlines/#oasis&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Oasis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; was unique in being the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;only&lt;/span&gt; low cost transport provider of any kind across the Pacific to date - with the possible exception of &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/australia/lowcostairlines/#jetstarinternational&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Jetstar International&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; which flies from Australia only as far as Honolulu in &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Hawaii&lt;/span&gt;.
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The only thing I can think of right now which might be remotely useful is Cathay Pacific's &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;All Asia Pass&lt;/span&gt;, available for &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;US$ 1100&lt;/span&gt;. This will cover some of your intra-Asian flights in advance &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; the flight from Hong Kong back to North America:
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cathayusa.com/offers/allasiapass/offer.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Cathay Pacific USA All Asia Pass&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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After crossing the Pacific you'll still have to fly back to &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Vancouver&lt;/span&gt; from California - I see &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/airlines/westjet.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;WestJet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; flies from &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Palm Springs&lt;/span&gt; to &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Vancouver&lt;/span&gt;, so that's one possible option.</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 10:05:31 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>more air oasis trouble</title>
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  <description>doing a SE Asia trip this summer, was planning on flying home to vancouver from hong kong with oasis. any suggestions for an alternative cheap route? would consider any route no matter layovers or days involved. thanks.</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:57:37 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>RE: Wizz Air Ukraine launches domestic flights in July 2008</title>
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  <description>Exciting stuff!
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Warsaw - Kiev would seem like an obvious route to start their international flights with.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Or, indeed: &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Katowice&lt;/span&gt; - &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;L'viv&lt;/span&gt;.
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Short of renting a car, the most straightforward way right now to get from &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Krakow&lt;/span&gt;, the capital of Malopolska to &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;L'viv&lt;/span&gt;, the capital of Galicia is to take the train. I did it last January, just after New Year and, to put it bluntly, it takes hours, you arrive in the middle of the night and the border-crossing is a royal pain in the ass.
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A 45 minute flight between the two cities would be a spur to regional growth, help Ukraine with building its path towards EU accession and maybe give the railways the kick up the behind they sorely need, right now.
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In the long term I'm not really in favour of such short air-routes, if, as is widely suggested, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://temptravelcafe.informe.com/forum/how-much-is-mankind-responsible-for-earth-s-climate-changei-dt106.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;aviation emissions are contributing to global warming&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; but building an express railway line between Krakow and L'viv doesn't seem to be much of a priority right now and something tells me it ought to be.</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:43:21 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>Wizz Air Ukraine launches domestic flights in July 2008</title>
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  <description>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Wizz Air Ukraine opens Kiev base and launches domestic flights in July 2008&lt;/span&gt;
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Wizz Air Ukraine, the first low fare - low cost airline in Ukraine announced at a press conference in Kiev today that it would start operating an initial network of seven Ukrainian domestic routes from its operating base at Kiev Boryspil Airport on 11 July 2008. Wizz Air Ukraine will provide low fare air travel service from Kiev Boryspil Airport to Lviv, Odessa, Simferopol, Kharkov and Zaporozhye. Flights from Lviv and Kharkov to Simferopol, the popular Krym resort will also be available to the Ukrainian travellers.
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Wizz Air Ukraine’s new routes include:
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Kiev – Lviv	4 flights/week
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Kiev - Kharkov	4 flights/week
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Kiev - Odessa 	7 flights/week
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Kyiv - Zaporozhye	3 flights/week
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Kiev - Simferopol	10 flights/week
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Simferopol – Kharkov	3 flights/week
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Simferopol – Lviv	4 flights/week
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Ticket sales will be opened on 24 April with all inclusive fares starting from as low as UAH 79 on the airline’s website, wizzair.com or through the Wizz Air Ukraine call center on +380 (44) 206-4-888.
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Wizz Air Ukraine will operate brand new Airbus A320 aircraft configured with 180 leather seats offering low fares and convenient air travel experience to the Ukrainian public.
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“Today is a milestone event in the development of Wizz Air as well as for the Ukrainian traveling public. Wizz Air Ukraine’s high quality service and low fares will change the dynamics of the Ukrainian transportation market. Now all those who never thought of flying before will have the opportunity to travel fast, safely and comfortably on our new Airbus A320 aircraft for the fraction of the current prices.” - said Natália Kázmér, Director General of Wizz Air Ukraine. “Wizz Air Ukraine has ambitious plans to quickly expand its operations by adding international routes and more domestic services, opening further operating bases in various regions in Ukraine and ultimately deploying an increasing number of aircraft.” - she added. &lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Wizz Air don't currently fly to Ukraine, but I'd expect them to connect their Ukraine flights to the rest of their network quite quickly. Warsaw - Kiev would seem like an obvious route to start their international flights with. Hopefully they'll expand south and east rather than just west. It would be nice if they served the Caucasus.</description>
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  <description>An excellent piece - good find.
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Possibly. I hadn't thought of that, but, yes it's possible that budget carriers like &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/czech/lowcostairlines/#easyjet&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;easyJet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/czech/lowcostairlines/#skyeurope&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Sky Europe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; will gain passengers travelling on business, even as airlines like the Czech and Austrian flag-carriers &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;CSA&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/airlines/austrian.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Austrian Airlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; lose them.
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As the recession worsens and oil prices stay high I think we will see a number of low cost carriers - essentially those with the weakest business models - fall apart and the better established LCCs go from strength to strength.
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What I'm practically certain of is that in today's inter-connected world, people do need to travel, whether for business, personal or family reasons, and when times are tight, they will be more concerned than ever to look for and find the cheapest airfare available, no matter the inconvenience.
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In this climate, pioneer class low cost carriers like &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Ryanair&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/singapore/lowcostairlines/#tiger&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Tiger Airways&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/uae/lowcostairlines/#airarabia&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Air Arabia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; can only thrive. The collapse of &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Skybus&lt;/span&gt; was an anomaly and I'm sure we will see the return of &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Skybus&lt;/span&gt; or airlines like &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Skybus&lt;/span&gt; in the USA. We will not see the return of airlines in the USA like &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Aloha&lt;/span&gt;. Not when people can fly with &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attitudetravel.com/hawaii/lowcostairlines/#go&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;go!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; instead.</description>
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